Pro Life
" I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."
"I am deeply troubled by my own increasing certainty that I have in fact presided over 60,000 deaths. There is no longer serious doubt in my mind that human life exists from the very onset of pregnancy" --Dr. Bernard Nathanson7
"I went up to the lab one day and on the pathologiest's table I saw what I thought was little rubber doll until I realized it was a fetus. . .I got really shook up and upset and I couldn't believe it. It had all its fingers and toes, you know, hands and feet. . . I never thought it would look so -real. I didn't like it." --Planned Parenthood employee 9
You see? Abortion is morally wrong. Many women that have had abortions go into depression, because they have realized what theyve done. abortion is murder.
Science has shown us lots about the fetus. It has shown us that the fetus gains human life at conception. Science has shown us that the fetus is only 1/2 its mother, 1/2 its father, and entirely itself. Science has made it possible for a fetus to live without its mother early during the second trimester, and this date is constantly being pushed back. In every way, science has shown us that a fetus is its own individual being, who therefore deserves rights: most importantly the right to life. Laws contradict themselves by allowing it to be legal. Many laws have been activated to protect the rights of unborn, yet laws still protect abortion, an act that infringes upon the most sacred right of all: life. Even the Supreme Court ruled that fetuses have the right to life when the suggestion of "personhood" is made. How can fetuses not have personhood after viability, when the fetus is independent of its mother, 25 weeks before birth?
"I am deeply troubled by my own increasing certainty that I have in fact presided over 60,000 deaths. There is no longer serious doubt in my mind that human life exists from the very onset of pregnancy" --Dr. Bernard Nathanson7
"I went up to the lab one day and on the pathologiest's table I saw what I thought was little rubber doll until I realized it was a fetus. . .I got really shook up and upset and I couldn't believe it. It had all its fingers and toes, you know, hands and feet. . . I never thought it would look so -real. I didn't like it." --Planned Parenthood employee 9
You see? Abortion is morally wrong. Many women that have had abortions go into depression, because they have realized what theyve done. abortion is murder.
Science has shown us lots about the fetus. It has shown us that the fetus gains human life at conception. Science has shown us that the fetus is only 1/2 its mother, 1/2 its father, and entirely itself. Science has made it possible for a fetus to live without its mother early during the second trimester, and this date is constantly being pushed back. In every way, science has shown us that a fetus is its own individual being, who therefore deserves rights: most importantly the right to life. Laws contradict themselves by allowing it to be legal. Many laws have been activated to protect the rights of unborn, yet laws still protect abortion, an act that infringes upon the most sacred right of all: life. Even the Supreme Court ruled that fetuses have the right to life when the suggestion of "personhood" is made. How can fetuses not have personhood after viability, when the fetus is independent of its mother, 25 weeks before birth?
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of course they didnt. When facts and sound reason are thrown in thier face they either ignore it or cant stand it. Thier closed minds will not accept anything else because thier so convinced that they are right no matter what. Steven is a perfect example. He banned me, ottman, and jasper because he didnt want the truth revealed.
That was riveting. I am on the fence on abortions early in the first trimester, but partial birth and 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions are obviously wrong.
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Aman...
Nice post!
nice blog, however, are you really 15, pretty intellegent for a 15 year old.
yes I am 15, thanks for the compliment.
I am not sure about your religious beliefs, but as a christian, I say, spread the word. It should be illegal everywhere. As a woman, I find it disgusting to throw it (legalized abortion)in the faces of all the women who cannot bear children and people are "Killing" perfect little ones.
Thats perfectly fine chelsea. you can say whatever you want on this blog. After I was kicked out of http://isbushantichrist.blogspot.com/ I decided that a blog is a public place for conversation, debate, and yes, even fights. And lol I liked your comment on the partail birth abortion. However, when performing any kind of abortion, it is virtually the same thing your doing to the baby. They say that the anesthetics kill the pain for the baby, but this is not true, it does not completley kill the pain. Videotapes of sonograms have been made, showing the fetus squirm in pain from the abortion. Sudden movement and thrashing have also shown the presence of pain.
Yes praynlady I am a christian and I totally agree with what we should do. In the next week I am going to draw as many people to this site, people on both sides, and show them all that abortion is unacceptable.
bush is running again? sweet!
I have an idea! Let's ban contraception and force women to “make love” whenever the husbands demand it. Then, in a fit of genius, force every conceived child to be born, regardless of the circumstances. And just as we've made the Lord happy, deny government assistance to those children, which that very same government forced into this world.
Yeah, I want my government to tell me when and when not to have a child. Wait... China did just that: Forced population control by destroying "unsanctioned" children.
Yeah, the Lord Almighty is on OUR side and He shall smite with his undying love for us anyone who opposes...us.
Oh, one last thing. Morality is not objective. It is subjective. So is the label “wrong.” Try not to subject us to your interpretations. But that’s what Christians do best. Heck, it’s their mission in life. Repent sinner, or go to Hell because I say so.
Let’s hope you don’t get pregnant at sixteen and wreck your (and your child’s) life just because you were a child and made a mistake. God still forgives, right?
i have an idea. why don't you shut up and pray a little more.
that was to you CHIEF.
well I guess getting pregnant at sixteen is the punishment for having premarital sex in the first place!
There are currently 400,000 couples in America trying to adopt, so these babies could have a happy families even if the blood parents can't raise them.
and dont subject me to your sarcastic ramblings about this government control crap. abortion is murder. Im not going to support the right of choice for the mother, because its murder. Are you telling me that the liberty of choice is more important than life itself?
I can't say I agree with some of your opinions but thank you for commenting on my site!
yes the sn is a joke, im not that stupid. Your too busy assuning things. I have not lied, I have read your blog, and everyone elses Ive posted on.
and I think its time I made a post on the war on terror.
And wheres the lol on the post I made about pregnant 16 year olds? I dont see it! Liar! or is it that you skim through things too fast?
"Its probaly because thier too intrested in hating george bush"
I was talking about liberals. Once again how about you double check before you accuse me of things.
"As the bible says in Romans 1:21 "for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened."
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While claiming to be wise, they became fools
The "liberal intellectuals" as they love to call themselves, are certainly the ones God was talking about. Peterzchett is the primo example of who will fall under the real antichrist's deceptions very easily and they will be the last to realize it too! "
hey, some very interesting points wich every1 should reflect on. i completely agree with what u said. life is way 2 precious 2 b thrown away; but sometimes people just dont realise it in their moments of severe desperation. i mean the way u described birth was really inspiring but if someone wrote an account of the problems associated with having a child which was un-intended, it could also be very motivational in its own way, u know what i mean? i think it's fantastic that someone ur age thinks about things like these, from my own experience as a teenager i know there r many kids who wud have no idea about this and could blindly make the rong choice, no wonder teenage pregnancy is so high in britain.
Keep up the good work my friend. I like what I see here.
This is the second time i've had to post this. And you claim to love freedom of speech?! I will post it again.
Orinal comment, deleted by you.
Abortion is murder?
War is also murder.
Execution is also murder. (An eye for an eye..)
Allowing guns in the home causes murder
Christianity seems to be all about murder. So it seems.
You posted a comment on my site but i disagree with all your policies so removed it, i expect you did a mass
comment of loads of blog sites trying to attract visitors to you ill thought out site(RE:"Thanks for leaving your address on my blog"). This I find really pathetic, faking support for a blog when in fact it's clear that your blog is very naive in it's opinions of the world (possibly the product of a terrible media system in the US) and craves
visitors because you cannot seem to make anyone want to come back
Some of your less well thought out comments:
"in our decisions to make a better world": A better world in whose eyes? I hear George W Bush say that he would not compromise America's economy in providing aid to Africa. That is not making a better world, that is the sort of selfish economics I have learnt to expect from the right wing, espicially the US government. And sure democracy gives power to the people( of most countries that aren't subject to corruption like nations with demoncracy forced upon them are pronce to) but can "making a better world" justify a war that has killed
thousands of soldiers, civilians and real people that aren't just statistics.
"This serves a huge blow to our troops moral": As does fighting a war that they know (but are by their duty obliged to fight) was flawed from the outset. Attempting to remove a government is one thing, but doing it the American way is why America's foreign policy has been flawed for the last 50 years. That's why no-one in the world likes the government, nor the propaganda churned out by the awful media you have to be exposed to.
Open your eyes, right wing governments benefit the few (eg, awful state of American healthcare VS the massive profits of conglomerates and friends of Old Bush prospering). Now, it's obvious that in the society we live in communism and mass socialism will never work, such are the limits of a class-structured society but basing a government on age-old-teaching that have been changed, exploited and modified to benefit priests and spread the Christian faith (eg, homophobic teaching that has no place in modern socity, doesn't help the spread of christians/ families) is no way to run a civilised country in exactly the same way as living by the word of Qu-ran or the Tenakh.
"U.S. History has repeated itself many times in this issue": And it will again and again unless your government realises you need real justification for staging a war.
Please set me right on these issues. I don't come to rant, nor rave like much of what I'm sure your often describe "loony left", I want to learn. Tell me that right-wing governments works. Tell me that going to war with Iraq was the right thing. Convince me that there is any possible reasons to relate Iraq with Al-Queda and with 9/11. Tell me that the massive civilian casualities in all the countries America has invaded justifies being able to live in a "safe" society. Is it just me, or has American foreign policy made America the least safe place to live in the world (not forgetting gun crime, wrongful executions and capital punishment programme that doesn't help set you apart from countries you are trying trying to liberate. If I was a Mexican immigrant I would keep running,
because at the moment Canada seems like a much better option than living under you barbaric regime)
"Pro Choice. The liberals always like to say this, to make it seem acceptable for a women to kill her baby." Well it's her body, her choice. And what about in cases of rape, incest or problems with the pregnancy that would cause the mothers life to come to harm. The right often forgets that the Mother also has a life that can be damaged by psychological, mental and physical effects of childbirth.
And finally, the most bizzare comment of yours (and probably the oddest comment I have ever heard):
"Its probaly because thier too intrested in hating george bush"
Yes, women get abortions because they hate Bush. Please, at least some right-wing commentators attempt to make sense and avoid massive generalisatons. Emotional propaganda that you seem to advocate in this post is doing NOTHING to help further the abortion debate. "There is no longer serious doubt in my mind that human life exists from the very onset of pregnancy": But doesn't a foetus become a human life when it can look after itself, not having to rely on its mother, itsn't that what it is to live?
Very clever for a 15 year old, but very naive. Links + Statistics don't make me change my mind, and neither do sweeping generalisations.
Using "lol" in relation to abortion? Very inappropriate.
"well I guess getting pregnant at sixteen is the punishment": Laughable. Grow up
"liberty of choice is more important than life itself?" Well its not life when the child can't support itself is it? And neglecting liberty is something America is all about it seems.
Oh and I hope you realise (being 15 and all) the bush can't run in 2008. It's unconstitional, but I expect he can change that. After all America has lost its liberty, freedom and free speech(Patriot Act) I suppose Bush wouldn't have much trouble changing it so he can stay in power for a little longer.
By the way, "Pro bush and rocket science" doesn't seem to go together.
Next time you want to get support write something worth reading rather than lieing to get visitors.
Good day.
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I was going to tell bushcheney08 something hotheaded and pissy because I don't appreciate his mass commenting as a tool to spread his extremist conservative christian propaganda. It offends me as a democrat, a woman, and a rocket scientist! I was pretty sure, bushcheney08, when you commented on my blog that as a 15 year old republican boy you probably wouldn't say "nice blog!" in response to my posting about the plight of a female physicist. Anonymous Commenter #27, your comments were fabulous, intellegent and obviously well thought out. Do you have a blog? And by the way, bushcheney08, you could benefit greatly from a dictionary.
Well mike, you said you deleted my post on my blog, so I thought it was only fair to delete yours. lol I will teach you about the right wing government, iraq war, ect. but not tonight. im tired.
Magnetbabe, why are you offended? I have the right of freedom of the press. You shouldnt be offended. I only read your last post, which was about your work. I am a fast reader, but slow typer. I reply with "nice blog" to every blog except for political ones.
extremist conservative christian propaganda? Your a bit of an extremist yourself for even saying that. Its a nice little phrase that democrats use to make themselves sound smart. I am against abortion, thats extremist?
acually I changed my mind I will explain it tonight
You just brought me to tears! As a catholic and PRO-LIFE I totally agree with you! I am a mom of two beautiful little girls and this stuff just breaks my heart! It'so good to see a young guy like you spreading the word on these important issues. I have friends that stand outside of clinics and pray for people and... They get spit on, pushed, screamed at and much more. I'm going to add you to my linky love! Keep on keepin on brother from another:0)
Well said my friend. I must say that it is funny seeing some of the comments that are opposed to what you said. It is also funny how much text they can right and really don't even know what they are writing about. They live in world where numero uno is them, and then attack others for giving a crap about others. Listen carefully, you keep writing about the truth and eventually others will realize that you are right. Trust me they have no control and will soon come to realize this. Keep it up!
And for all if those who have a comment to make to me, please let me know if you would like to further discuss the truth and I will be happy to give you my email.
The shit you're (PLEASE take note of the spelling of the contraction for you are) spewing is propaganda. You leave your address so people will look at your blog and be shocked by graphic descriptions of partial birth abortions and then suddenly become republicans. "And a phrase to make democrats sound smart?" I have a MASTERS DEGREE IN PHYSICS. I AM SMART. YOU ARE 15. You don't know shit yet and it is truly frightening the stuff you are trying to spread. I understand there is freedom of the press. You are more than welcome to write whatever you want, but understand that if you randomly solicit people trying to get them to read your naive opinions, you will make people angry. By the way, are you aware that you wrote LOL about a man's 19 month old child being attacked by a dog? Very nice.
Hey magnetbabe, do you have any children? How can you criticize this kid for spreading the truth? Wow your really fired up. Simmer down slugger! He's only 15 and least he cares.
I'm the one adding you to my linky love, It posted anonymous in one of the comments above.
Kelli Belly:
Magnetbabe has every right to be "fired up". The beauty of America is our constitutional right of free speech. That right extends to someone standing on a soap box yelling out ideas that another person would spend the rest of his or her life fighting against. Getting fired up over topics allows for the free exchange of ideas and the educating of people on opposite sides of an issue. However, it is unfortunate that the author of this blog is unwilling to hear any ideas that do not shadow his own. It is unfortunate that the author of this blog is so naive and seemingly uneducated (i.e. his willingness to spread emotion-laden Republican propaganda at will without proper citations to add validity to his argument). It is also unfortunate that the author of this blog seems to be spouting off opinions that have been spouted at him, I see no evidence of original thought. Beyond that, I am glad that the author is only 15 years old, he cannot vote yet and therefore has no say in how this country is run, yet. I shiver at the day he will be able to vote. Finally, it is unfortunate that his argument signals the fact that he thinks of women as second-class citizens. He is not taking into account a woman's right of choice over her own body, he is placing higher priority on the life of a fetus that cannot survive on it's own. This is a sad view of the world as women are half of the population. Over thirty years ago, the United States Supreme Court ruled that it is a woman's CONSTITUTIONAL right to choose whether she wants an abortion or not. A constitutional right, a liberty, is a powerful thing. It is wrong to want to take away someone else's constitutional right just because religious pretenses do not happen to agree with it. The First Amendment of the Bill of Rights states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise". So freely exercise your religious preference, but do not push your views on me and do not attach your views to what is lawful and what isn't. Do not patronize me or other women for getting fired up at the ignorance of other people over this issue. Do not patronize me or other women who do not happen to be mothers and therefore could not possibly understand the full scale of this issue. Being a mother has nothing do with where a woman’s standpoint is in the issue of abortion.
I see no evidence of original thought. Beyond that, I am glad that the author is only 15 years old, he cannot vote yet and therefore has no say in how this country is run
Damn right.
Get an education, get your own opinions, and think for yourself.
Well magnetbabe, you certainly dont sound smart when you cuss and cry and make a fuss of your self.
"He is not taking into account a woman's right of choice over her own body, he is placing higher priority on the life of a fetus that cannot survive on it's own. This is a sad view of the world as women are half of the population. Over thirty years ago, the United States Supreme Court ruled that it is a woman's CONSTITUTIONAL right to choose whether she wants an abortion or not. A constitutional right, a liberty, is a powerful thing. It is wrong to want to take away someone else's constitutional right just because religious pretenses do not happen to agree with it."
news flash: ABORTION IS MURDER. I will not support the womans chioce to kill life. The country is free, but to what extent? The law forbids murder. As for my christian readers, whats the first commandment? THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
news flash: ABORTION IS MURDER. I will not support the womans chioce to kill life.
Honey, wake up, ending a life is very different than ending a human life. I am sure you kill every bug that enters your house. Yet, a bug can survive on it's own and the fetus you are discussing cannot. You need to do a bit of research on the definition of life in all forms.
By the way, WAR IS MURDER too and yet you support the war in Iraq where tens to hundreds innocent civilians are slaughtered each day.
So if you are going to be against murder, be against murder. But do not support one type and not the other, you sniveling little hypocrit.
My mistake: Human life
And if you cant understand why we fight wars, your very close minded. In the long run giong to war is the option that would cause less death.
"I have a MASTERS DEGREE IN PHYSICS. I AM SMART."
Mabye book smart but not street smart.
also, I understand why we fight wars, I was merely pointing out the flaw in your murder argument (i.e. this type of murder is okay while this type of murder isn't...). Apparently, you are too shortsighted to see what is front of your face.
Sorry to say but life is at "The time of conception" Thats what it was intended to be at the begining and thats what it always will be. There are other options besides abortion. Many of my close friends have had abortions and deeply, deeply regret it. One day the truth will be revealed.
yes, cellular life begins at conception, however, human life does not.
Well for secular people, the subject of when life begins is totally opinionable, however, in the bible there is proof.
"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee..." (Jeremiah 1:5)
"He shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb" (Luke 1:15)
"And it came to pass , that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake with a loud voice, and said 'Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb'." (Luke 1:41-42)
"Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." (Genesis 9:6)
abortion is murder. Sorry anonymous
the bible is a story not a fact of history. sorry bushcheney.
The bible is the most accurate record of history and nothing can ever change that!
Dude, I think you may have made a bit of a mistake by posting your link on my blog. You're 15, so I'll give you a bit of a break, but your intelligence means that I'm going to give you a run for your money.
A bit of advice before I take apart your post: Talk radio is propaganda. Look at all sides, don't just spout rhetoric. And for God's sake, think for yourself. You talk about facts, reason and open mindedness. But we'll see if you're ready to handle a full blast of it.
1. The heartrending story about the six month old fetus being brutally murdered was moving. Really, it was. But at the end of that story, Dr. Nathanson says: There is no longer serious doubt in my mind that human life exists from the very onset of pregnancy Umm, really. What does a six month old fetus have to do with life begining at conception? How can you make the jump from a microscopic blob of cells to something that not only has a brain and heartbeat but even looks like a baby? There are many people out there who advocate making abortion more availible and late term abortion illegal. Ending a pregnancy before a human life is in question would solve many problems. However, many evangelical christians who would like all forms of contraceptions and even condoms banned make safe sex awareness scarce and decreasing access to abortion centeres increase the numbers of women who wait to get abortions far into the second or even third trimesters. What do you think of ending a two week old pregnancy? Isn't that different than a six month old one? Stop thinking in childish terms of black and white and look at the issues.
2. You cited a story about a planned parenthood worker becoming upset about a fetus looking so real. Then you proclaimed: You see? Abortion is morally wrong.
Excuse me for pointing out that you never proved anything of the sort. The only attempt at backup your provided was depression rates. Arguably, the kind of women who are even candidates for abortion are at high risk for depression to begin with. These are women who either were forced into sex, were irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex or had a planned pregnancy that they now want to end because of divorce or illness. I'd be depressed if I were in any of the above categories too - regardless of abortion.
3. You make the claim: Science has shown us lots about the fetus. It has shown us that the fetus gains human life at conception. Oh really? Don't you dare make that kind of claim without backing it up. You say that as if it's a generally accepted fact in the scientific community. It isn't. A zygote, (the scientific term for a fertalized egg) is potential life, not life. And by the way, a woman isn't even considered pregnant untill the zygote attaches itself to the uterine wall and begins to draw nutrients from the woman's blood. Gosh, what makes you think that conception is where life begins? Why not go all the way back to sperm?!! That's also potential life, after all, isn't it? Maybe jerking off is murder too! Now that is something to think about the next time you pull out a playboy mag. ;)
4. The most convincing part of your argument, by far, is the viability one. My personal position is that all abortions should be done within the first three months, and the viability argument (which is one I am quite familiar with) is one reason for that.
The thing is that you can't have it both ways. Do you realize that many pro lifers both bash 2nd and 3rd term abortion and prevent access to sex ed, contraception, the morning after pill and early abortion? Face it. The abortion debate isn't as much about life as it is about protecting the 'moral culture' of our country. Christians see sex outside of marriage as 'sinful' and should be prevented at all costs. The thing is that the cost is huge. Kids will have sex, and that's a fact that evangelical Christians have yet to face. If they were really so adamant about preventing 2nd and 3rd term abortion, they'd provide options to lower the numbers of unwanted pregnancies that get to that point. But no. Pro lifers push abstinance only programs which quite frankly don't work and cutting access to contraception and the morning after pill, and some get ahold of pregnant women and 'council' them for a few precious weeks, delaying the time of the abortion. In additon, I'm sure you know that many people out there would love to see condoms taken off the shelves.
The thing is that in this country, we have the freedom to do things that Christianity may not like. That includes everything from sleeping in on Sunday morning to having premarital sex or even homosexual sex. You have the personal ability to choose not to engage in whatever behaviors you don't like, but you don't have the right to prevent other people from living as they wish.
You're so into truth, aren't you. Well let's stop bs-ing and say things as they are: Christians don't feel as bad for the unborn as they are terrified of sexuality.
Hope I gave you something to think about. :)
"1. The heartrending story about the six month old fetus being brutally murdered was moving. Really, it was. But at the end of that story, Dr. Nathanson says: There is no longer serious doubt in my mind that human life exists from the very onset of pregnancy Umm, really. What does a six month old fetus have to do with life begining at conception?"
Well, I thought that the reader after the story would think, "well, killing human life is wrong, but what if it isnt alive, because a fetus isnt a human life?" So then I give it to them from the abortionists themselves.
"You're so into truth, aren't you. Well let's stop bs-ing and say things as they are: Christians don't feel as bad for the unborn as they are terrified of sexuality."
very true.
"The thing is that you can't have it both ways. Do you realize that many pro lifers both bash 2nd and 3rd term abortion and prevent access to sex ed, contraception, the morning after pill and early abortion? Face it. The abortion debate isn't as much about life as it is about protecting the 'moral culture' of our country. Christians see sex outside of marriage as 'sinful' and should be prevented at all costs. The thing is that the cost is huge. Kids will have sex, and that's a fact that evangelical Christians have yet to face. If they were really so adamant about preventing 2nd and 3rd term abortion, they'd provide options to lower the numbers of unwanted pregnancies that get to that point. But no. Pro lifers push abstinance only programs which quite frankly don't work and cutting access to contraception and the morning after pill, and some get ahold of pregnant women and 'council' them for a few precious weeks, delaying the time of the abortion. In additon, I'm sure you know that many people out there would love to see condoms taken off the shelves."
true as well. unfortunatly, sex ed classes do not work either.
"3. You make the claim: Science has shown us lots about the fetus. It has shown us that the fetus gains human life at conception. Oh really? Don't you dare make that kind of claim without backing it up."
Well what I meant was that it starts to gain human life. once conception happens, it has started the chain of human life that will grow and grow. I think the morning after pill is okay, but if the process is stopped after 3 or 4 days, Its killing a human life.
"Gosh, what makes you think that conception is where life begins? Why not go all the way back to sperm?!! That's also potential life, after all, isn't it? Maybe jerking off is murder too! Now that is something to think about the next time you pull out a playboy mag. ;)"
Your right. I dont masterbate because it is killing human life. but unfortunatly, my body keeps producing sperm. So whenever I wake up with a wet dream, I weep, thinking of the thousands of babies ive killed.
lol jk
Here is my view on abortion:
I do believe it is okay if:
1) The woman is raped
2) Incest
3) The woman has a health problem where she would end up passing away if she went through with it.
4)If the baby would be born with a health problem were s/he would die after birth anyway, or would live a very painful life.
5) Father ran away.
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Excluding the above:
Do I believe it is the woman's body? Well yes, but there is also the body of the baby we must take into mind.
If the father did not run away, the father should give the okay to have the abortion. I mean, after birth, would the mother have to gain custidy to keep the baby from the father?
It could be your body, but if you are sleeping with random men you may not care for it all that much. I have respect for my body and would never to such a thing.
Whatever happend to people wearign condoms? Call me old school, but I believe if we make unrestricted abortion illegal we could lower the trend of people that get AIDS. It maybe debatable whether or not abortion is actually killing a living being, but AIDS does!
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BOTTOM LINE:
I do believe abortion is okay only under certain circumstances. Granted, I realize I may have missed a few at the top of this post. I do have compassion to parents who are in difficult situations.
But I think abortion is wrong if people do it just becuase it is their body and they have the right to do so.
Do what I do:
Take the pill
Use protection
Don't sleep with just anyone.
By no means am I tyring to make people feel guilty for having an abortion. What's in the past is in the past.
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To Anonymouse,
I believe that saying that abortion is okay for somethings and not okay for others is a sign of moral weakness. I for one, will not make a comprimise to evil. You say that it is okay in cases of rape. Should the crime of the baby's father punish the baby? When a pregnant woman is given the death penalty, she is required by law to deliver the baby before she is killed. The reasoning behind this is that the baby is not responsible for his or her mother's crime. Similarly, why should a baby be allowed to be killed just because of a crime his father committed?
The father ran away? Oh yeah, the father ran away so the baby will have a terrible life if he lives. Well, let me tell you something. Even if it is a terrible life, a terrible life is better than no life.
You say you are compassionate to parents who are making a hard choice. And you dont have compassion for the baby? Killing a human life in an abortion case is a very cruel thing to do, pro choice and pro abortion is all based on selfishness.
If you cant see that, then you dont have an open mind to accept the possibility that you are killing a human life.
in my post it shows abortionists even turning on themselves and their opinions, because eventually your conscience gets to you when you experience it enough up close.
abortion is murder.
also:
when adam and eve sinned against god, all bad things were unleashed. Diseases and viruses, pain, hurting, even thorns from rose plants. It was kind of like gods wrath upon adam and eve for sinning. Thus aids is the punishment for having homosexual intercourse. aids is gods way of identifying the untouchables, the people who continue to live in sin like homosexuals do. its a very sad thing.
im not christian but muslim. my belief is that when adam and eve sinned, God gave adam and eve another chance as he is ever merciful, on earth. a chance 2 redeem themselves from the sin wich they had commited. I believe God cud have done worse, but i dont c life on earth as a punishment but rather a mercy, a test 2 pass and to prove 2 the creator that v r worthy of heaven.
jus givin my view. definately that is one reason, from the many, 4 y im against abortion. i dont think neway has the rite 2 deprive something of its purpose wich is 2 b born and experience life. its really complex though (this debate), as shown by the variety of posts here.
Well I dont know much about the muslim faith, but I dont think god is merciful, I believe jesus is. Jesus payed the price for us, and if god was merciful and gave them another chance, then whats jesus's purpose? That would also be implying that we have to be good to go to heaven, which is not true.
worst blog i have ever read. You are a tool. You will grow up and realise. One day you will wonder how you managed to spend years of life thinking the wrong thing.
" Thus aids is the punishment for having homosexual intercourse"
haha did you hear that in sunday school? Or on Fox?
And regarding the "jk" about masturbation, how very childish.
abortion is murder? Correct. Execution is also murder. And that is sanction by the government?
Please save us all the trouble from having to set you right and stop blogging.
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