Whats the Difference?
"Killing the children from the ghetto through abortion or from sending them to an illegal war in Iraq.What's the difference?"
Heres the difference:
http://www.htmlbible.com/abortstats.htm
Abortion has caused 44 million deaths; more deaths than all the us wars combined. Abortion is the real issue here, it has to be stopped.
Heres the difference:
http://www.htmlbible.com/abortstats.htm
Abortion has caused 44 million deaths; more deaths than all the us wars combined. Abortion is the real issue here, it has to be stopped.
28 Comments:
my god you're uninformed.
44 Million deaths of 44 Million abortions? Their is a massive difference and abortion should NEVER be seen as a reason to avoid debate of the awful state of US foreign policy. I'm sure that those war dead statistics don't include civilian casualties.
"real issue here" : By the way, the american people don't have to focus on one issue.
Please attempt to make a more informed post next time and don't bother regurgitating statistics that coming from "htmlbible" can be seen as watertight as your persuasive technique.
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my god you dont think through what you say.
yes, they do include civilian casualties but you have to remember the fighting style of wars like the civil war and the revolutionary. it was in a clear open field, with people lining up to be shot at. There were alomost no civilian casualties in those wars. And in the world wars, most of the battles the civilians were always evacuated.
War is very small compared to this silent death wave thats sweeping the world. The dems are hypocrites if they're against the war but for abortion.
I think the problem is that we all get focused on the 2 or 3 issues that speak to us the most without realizing that the other issues are important as well.
Yes, abortion and homosexuality are important issues - issues that the church needs to PRAY into to find out how the father wishes us to deal with. We have to keep in mind that as Christians our call is NOT to judge the world at all. Our job is judge the church. If we see a Christian brother or sister who is lost in sinful ways (as we all our) we have an obligation to call them on it and help them overcome. When it comes to the world's sins, we have to be prepared not only to defend our position, but to love the opposition into coming to know the lord.
This is something I have been realizing more and more lately - look, on one side we have people who are becoming "militant" about issues of same-sex marriage and abortion - important spiritual issues for Christians to be aware of and involved in. In the other camp people become militant about issues of the environment, the economy, social justice. These are ALSO important spiritual issues. If you look at what Jesus talked about, more than anything he talked about the use and abuse of money. More than any other group of people he was concerned about feeding the poor, healing the sick and loving the disenfrachised.
I don't believe Jesus ever mentioned gays or abortion. It doesn't mean that we should be concerned about these things, but it points to the fact that are not necessarily meant to be our focus.
The world has never responded well to Christians that (perhaps rightfully so) point the finger. No one likes to have their sins pointed out to them. What the world needs to see Christians do is unite in love and devote all of the militance into helping people, caring for people, loving people. If the world saw the Christian Church as an entity that more than anything is serving God by serving people, we wouldn't have to be militant about point out sins - the world would WANT to know what we think - they would ASK for our loving correction.
Something to think about.
"I don't believe Jesus ever mentioned gays or abortion."
Well, why would he if abortion didnt exists during his time? no I think that it is our job to speak out against evils like abortion. Other than that I think your comments are right on. But we need to spread the word about how abortion needs to be stopped.
Well, I do have a problem with your "religious right" concept. If your talking just about the religious right extremists (like the paster who kicked anyone who didnt support bush out) then yes I think they have no idea what christ was about. he was about reaching out to the lost, and helping them back out. Ive attempted this with the extremist left on hanchetts site, but he labels me as a hateful, right wing fundamentalist. The reason I label them that is because they labeled me that in the first place. Yes bush could be the antichrist the war in iraq could be a pawn for a bigger plan but nontheless it was good for iraq. Im glad you see it that way. But when people speak out against our leader like that, its treason in my eyes. As for questioning authority or submitting to it, I think thats a maturity issue. Its just like fighting your parents authority as a child.
"Well, why would he if abortion didnt exists during his time? "
How can you say that after you said in the Pro Life comments that the bible PROVES abortion is murder?
You need to listen carefully to your arguments and then back them up. Not just use the bible as an argument for EVERYTHING whenever it's convenient.
I've also noticed there are a tremendous amount of arguments you have not addressed though you keep bashing liberals. The liberals are the ones who are systematically taking apart your arguments, but you cannot do the same to theirs.
abortion didnt exist during his time, but god knew abortion would exist in the future, so he put versus in there that explains that a baby is a human life, even in the mothers womb. maybe you shouldnt be so quick to accuse me just because im 15.
This is also stupid. Think about it!!!!!! Abortions are done for a reason. people just don't kill babies for fun. Most of the times war is unnecesary. Killings in war...thats whats a problem. Think about it for a while
Kid you have a long way to learn even for a 15 year old
so he put versus in there that explains that a baby is a human life
so you think the creator is a "he?" How can the creator have a sex and written in the bible about abortions now tell me where?
It soundws like you are actually slandering god by using the name as a "he" and written the bible. Don't you think that the bible can be altered throught the centuries and I don't want to hear about the liberals this.
Yes bush could be the antichrist the war in iraq could be a pawn for a bigger plan but nontheless it was good for iraq. Im glad you see it that way. But when people speak out against our leader like that, its treason in my eyes.
Its not treason to speak against the leader who is causing fear amongst the american people. Once again why should I bow to a dictator who has done the same systematic mentality as hitler did? I won't be surprised when he alters the 22nd amendment to keep himself in power longer. That's my friend complete treason. It's also complete treason of creating the project of the new american century and it's treason to create the patriot act.
Without war we would not have stopped slavery, fascism, Nazism and Communism. These are facts. Nice blog BTW
Who actually financed the war? It's not that war actually happen. It's the creation of chaos and scapegoating. By all means the ones who actually creatie Fascism, Nazism, and Communism are the same ones who are trying to stop the war. It's all done by profiteering thanks to the big banks/Major corporations.
okay war is justified sometimes, but the iraq war was not
I value your your opion and thoughts and will not delete your coment but i'm pretty sure that you have something better to do than to leava an angry letter on my blog all that was meant for is to provide entertainment and fun for everyone.
Italy the cat, what is that reason? of course abortions are done for a reason. But that reason is often selfish, self centered, and wrong. If the girl had an unwanted pregnancy, she should not have had unprotected sex in the first place.
mike,
well, when I come in contact with a blog called f bush I tend to get angry.
This is in response to Cate. You make a good point. Sadam was a horrible dictator. It will be hard to determine, due to the current state of the war, what exactly America has done for the Iraqi people via this war. However, in a Times article a month ago I saw a frightening statistic that showed that 600 Iraqi women and children die A MONTH. Given the population of Iraq, that is the equivalent of a 9/11 every month. Just something to think about that is rarely covered in the media.
"If the girl had an unwanted pregnancy, she should not have had unprotected sex in the first place."
You are so ignorant!!!
What if a woman is violently raped? Doesn't she deserve rights to protect herself against carrying a stranger's baby? A baby conceived in violence and torture? There are women whose lives are in danger from carrying children. What if they are raped? Do they deserve to die in childbirth because of this? What about teenage girls whose lives and bodies could be ruined for giving birth to babies conceived from these horrible situations? The vast vast majority of women do not see abortion as birth control, they see at as their constitutional right to have a choice when faced with situations that are not as black and white as you make them out to be.
Should the crime of the baby's father punish the baby? When a pregnant woman is given the death penalty, she is required by law to deliver the baby before she is killed. The reasoning behind this is that the baby is not responsible for his or her mother's crime. Similarly, why should a baby be allowed to be killed just because of a crime his father committed?
well, when I come in contact with a blog called f bush I tend to get angry.
You are angry because you keep in denial that everything will be ok. What's really wrong you think you have all of the answer as god's chosen people. In reality you spew the hateful propoganda towards your own righteous view. It is a fact that terrorism does not exist because of our current government creating chaos. Instead of progressing we are regressing back into the dark ages in the 21st century. A rogue country with a grossly incompotent president like Bush is a dangerous threat thanks to the Big Banks and multinational corporations.
We are killing innocent babies and you claim to be this pro life and be part of the death penalty? I find this stance more of a double standard sort of speak. How about all of those women giving birth to deformed babies thanks to all of those mustard gas American Corporations had developed and exported them to Iraq. You see these deformed babies who have no chance of living. Since you think that abortion is wrong look where the cause of it is from pedophilias, incest, rape, and pretty much people using religion as their medium to promote their self sexual gain. First hand a father who impregnated his daughter and when the baby was born it simply died. Yes that's definitely prolife because we allow pedos in the church and at home.
What really angers me a lot are the gas price in my state of GA is above 2.25 a gallon and I have known from my 6th sense that the oil industry would raise the gas price and the profits would transacted towards guys like Dick Cheney and Bush's oil buddies. How is the gas prices from El Cheapo, Amoco, BP, and Shell are all in the same price range. Someone from a centralize source are telling the gas industry to raise the gas price. I am not surprise of 2 bucks will be the norm.
So yes we do live in the best country. A country that should have been a sovereign nation and minded our own busniess. Instead of creating chaos and profiteering from other countries.
"well, when I come in contact with a blog called f bush I tend to get angry."
Just like many women tend to get angry when they come in contact with a blog that talks about denying them their constitutional rights.
I got one
"Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape or incest, 0.3%; in cases of risk to maternal health or life, 1%; and in cases of fetal abnormality, 0.5%. About 98% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control."
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html
Hell yeah, Bush isn't the Antichrist! Judging from how much killing Americans have done to their own people, Bush really isn't anything at all. He's nothing but a scapegoat to us.
Who robs the stores and kills the owners? We do. Who forgets the condoms--which are only three damn dollars at the gas station--and kills their children when they're barely conceived? We do. Who shoots people in the head just because their shoes are tight? We do!
Bush is a stupid person, but so is everyone else.
There is a difference between being pro-life and preaching it. I am pro-life and I agree that the Bible makes it quite clear that unborn children ARE human beings and are uniquely created by God. It says "Even before you were formed in the womb, I knew you." Every child, no matter what the circumstances surrounding its conception, has a special and unique destiny.
But one has to look at other factors as well - like how the average fundamentalist christian would deal with one of their children becoming pregnant by accident and out of wedlock. If we are going to be preaching pro-life to people then we have to be willing to get into trenches with them and support their decisions. From what I see, most of the women who get abortions do so because of the shame involved in having their child.
As a Christian I find that apalling and hypocritical. If I had a daughter who became pregnant like that, I would be very clear that I do not want her getting an abortion, and I would also be firm about the fact that she should not have been having sex outside of marriage for a thousand different reasons, but I would deal with those two issues seperately because the reality is that preserving the life of that child and loving it into its destiny is so much more important than being angry at the mother over her indiscretion.
The other thing I must acknowledge, being a Christian who is pro-life and against same-sex marriage, is that there are more than two important spiritual issues confronting our nation these days - and looking at it from a Biblical perspective, these two issues fall behind social justice and stewarding our world in terms of how important they are.
There is a time when the body of Christ needs to stand up and resist the world's attempt to make the wrong things look right and the right things look wrong - people need correction sometimes. But they need love and support ALL the time, and this should be our full-time job as believers.
Maybe a country of peace-lovers with no military would be vulnerable, but think about what might happen if we used our resources to rebuild and support the rest of the world out of a genuine love for all of God's people. If the world knew us as peacemakers (not peace keepers)and poor-feeders, people who will fight to the death to bring provision and security (genuine security, not at the end of bombs and bullets) who would want to oppose us?
"Hey let's stop those guys, they're helping everybody! GET 'EM!!"
Cate. i am completly against the iraqi war. of course the gas chambers and torture methods are similar, my grandparents are survivors.
"okay war is justified sometimes, but the iraq war was not"
Try telling that to the Kurds
^^I didn't mean to be rude by saying that^^
I just saw your last post. I do have the upmost respect for all holocaust survivors.
I do apologize.
i love it when a man decides whether or not women should be allowed to have abortions... what a joke! but, i guess i shouldn't expect any more (less?) from a conservative yank... worry about your prostate and your hairline, and leave this issue to women who often find themselves battered, alone and facing the prospects of raising some deadbeat's or rapist's offspring on their own...
"i love it when a man decides whether or not women should be allowed to have abortions."
Im sorry but maybe I should rephrase this so you can understand how I see it.
"i love it when a man decides whether of not women should be allowed to murder."
I just love it how you twist things around and start BS on other site...
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