Saturday, July 30, 2005

Micheal Moore is an Idiot!

Now as you can tell by this post's title, I really, really dislike micheal moore. For those of you who do like him, please, keep reading.

After the attacks of 9/11, micheal moore wrote this lovely message on his website.

"Many families have been devastated tonight. This just is not right. They did not deserve to die. If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes' destination of California--these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!"

Can you imagine if rush limbaugh would had said something like this? Not even the lunatic fringe would have embraced him. But Micheal says something this stupid and it doesnt even register with cultural elites as out of line and idiotic. Liberals praise him and think of him as a national treasure. Trust me, Micheal Moore isnt a joke to the rest of the world. Thousands of mainstream liberals are now idolizing this guy!

Lets take a look at where hes popular now. France! And what does france have to say about fighting terrorism? They say that if we dont stop the killing, then they will make an alliance with the terrorists against us! I mean, can it get any more loonier?!?

I sometimes wonder whats happening to the world.

56 Comments:

Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

Have you seen Bowling for Columbine? I completely disagree with your political views and was completely disgusted with Fahrenheit 9/11,(and not because it was full of lies...) but Michael Moore's first popular documentary was very eye-opening and very interesting and very much not about the Bush Administration. As for him being an "idiot" in the intelligence sense of the word, he has to be fairly bright to have more American support than our president, wouldn't you think?

Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:18:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

No its because that america is full of idiots and that the fools follow the more foolish. You must have dismissed everything I said in that post, I doubt you read more than the title. Just because he has more support than the president, doesnt mean hes smart.

Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:23:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

I read the entire post, I can assure you. What makes him foolish? I'd be very interested in knowing. Because he disagrees with you? Because he knows that part of the reason 9/11 occured was because of the president and the influence he had on the rest of the world. I praise him for having enough courage to stand up for what he knows is true and right and for doing that regardless of the criticm he has received. I have yet to talk with someone who has evidence to prove wrong what they disagreed with in the documentary. Also, you say France will turn against us if we don't "stop the killing." Is killing normal and cool? I really don't think so. It's certainly the reason that I have turned against us, so I can't really blame them.

Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

I can't stress enough how very wrong it is to label those who don't agree with you as being "idiots and fools". This is not the way to get your message across. If I went around saying that all the non-Christians in the world are idiots I wouldn't be representing Christ very well, but unfortunately people would associate my behaviour with Christianity and run in the opposite direction.

I know you have a heart to declared the truth to people, but until you start coming to God yourself and asking him what his idea of the truth is (the only opinion that really matters) and realize that you cannot get people interested in knowing God by insulting them, you will never accomplish your goal.

If only you could realize that you still have much to learn and will always have much more to learn you might become a dangerous agent of truth. Until then, you're just spinning your wheels, man.

Sunday, July 31, 2005 1:29:00 AM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

"Also, you say France will turn against us if we don't "stop the killing." Is killing normal and cool? I really don't think so."

If you cant see the fact that we have to destroy the terrorist before they destroy the nation, and all you see the U.S doing is "killing", then you have a lack of wisdom in political matters and cant see the forest throught the trees. I cant believe how much common sense americans lack these days!

Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares about Michael Moore, Alex Jones on the other hand he is a REAL documentary commentator. I was impressed by Mr Alex Jones view on how the elections was completely staged. I had known that there was something wrong with the picture and the 9/11 incident. Tell me this how did the buildings crashed down was it the jet fuel. I think not and there are plenty of evidence that the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) along with the Bushes, Larry Silverstein, Marvin Bush who was head of security, and Giuliani. Just to name a few were all responsible for engineering and covering up the knowledge of the scap metal.

Want more see the hotel madrid which burned for hours and it never did collapse or the 1976 article of the WTC fire and it never did collapse. Oh and there was the actual taping of the firefighters setting out the fire and it was confirmed. They contained the fire.

Bush=HITLER

Reichstag, 9/11

American Concentration Camps secretly establishing, Auschwitz

ooh lookie here, What a despicable man Limbaugh is and people are deluded to believe and listen to his petty bs?

Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

Do terrorists include all people living in Iraq? Because I believe many that have died were undeserving cilivilians. It is a common, uninformed misconception in America and certain other parts of the world today that all middle-eastern or Muslim people are terrorists, which is very far from the truth. Remember that they see YOU and your beliefs the same way that we see theirs, and killing them all off will not solve any problems or make as any more liked or powerful as a country. For the most part, the "killing" has very much been left unjustified, and it saddens me that so many can't see that.

Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:28:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

no, if never invaded iraq then saddam would have a lot more power than he does now. in say, 20 years the death toll would have been a lot higher had we not invaded. Imagine if we continued not to do anything about saddam for 20 years. Imagine the position of power he would be in. If you imagine that, then you see why we invaded. To remove saddam before he became an imminent threat.

Anonymouse, let me save me and you a lot of time. Im right, your wrong, except this and your life will be much easier.

Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:34:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

oh yeah and you should take a sentence fragment and punctuation class.

Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:43:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

You will grow up to be a very sad person if you continue to think that way. If you have the attitude that you are right and it's your way or no way, you must learn to live without friends or really any support, because you certainly won't be well liked. We DID NOT invade Iraq because of terrorist threat. We invaded Iraq based on accusations that turned out to be very much untrue, and there is yet to be a valid link between 9/11 and Sadaam Hussein. You can argue that he was funding terrorists, but there are American terrorists, living on American soil, hurting American people, and yet taxpayers continue to fund their educations, support welfare they may be living on, etc. To me, our president is an international terrorist. Not because I am un-American, but because I love America and it breaks my heart to see the rest of the world hate it.

Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:02:00 PM  
Blogger joe said...

Mr. Moore my not be an idiot. He sure is misguided. Let's also not forget that Moore doesn't believe that there is a terrorist threat! Propaganda 9/11 had a lot of facts in it. The problem was, Moore twisted those facts around and distorted the truth. He only made that movie to bash President Bush and influence the election. I'm not a fan of President Clinton...I'm also not for any movie made to bash him. That does no good. Just present the facts. Moore has a long history of distorting the truth...all of his "documentaries" are that way.

Monday, August 01, 2005 6:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymouse, let me save me and you a lot of time. Im right, your wrong, except this and your life will be much easier.

You have to admit to yourself you will be wrong at times DEAL WITH IT! Quit your intellectual drivel that you have the gift for all the answers for people. You never read that link and I challenge you for that discussion. Still you coward behind that computer and ignore it with pure arrogance. If Bush and his cronies are still in power around 2008 and you still support his pathetic agenda you will be first one in an American Gulag.

So quit your moaning about liberals and conservatives the fine line between those died a long time ago. Patriotism is NOT about waving your flag and scream out U-S-A! as a mantra. Patriotism is against the tyranny in OUR soil and the government being controlled by elitist corporations. You support the globalist elite you are a NOT an American.

Treasonist traitor...

Monday, August 01, 2005 9:56:00 AM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Cate: yes I do listen to the other side, and I do know how the other side works. If I were to debate as a liberal, I would do pretty well. I know both sides, because my parents were liberal.

Monday, August 01, 2005 9:15:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Allisoni balloni: Your very mistaken. I have a great life and have many friends, and everyone around me is aware of my strong political opinion. I smack people down in real life debate just like I do here if the topic ever comes up.

Its true that the bush administration's only fault was lying about iraq. They probably thought that the real reason wasnt good enough so they lied about it. that wasnt right. But im not going to be totally anti Bush because of one mistake. Whats the real reason? the same one I expressed in my last comment.

Joe: Yeah I know hes not an idiot. That title was mainly used to attract liberals to this site.

Monday, August 01, 2005 9:17:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Anonymouse: yes I have read that link twice; people have sent it to me before. I would like to see a report on that that isnt biased. and Dont say that I read things when you have no Idea wether I did or not.

I cant believe how backwards you sound with this statement:

"Patriotism is NOT about waving your flag and scream out U-S-A! as a mantra. Patriotism is against the tyranny in OUR soil and the government being controlled by elitist corporations. You support the globalist elite you are a NOT an American."

first of all, yes, that is what patriotism is. Second of all, if you think that our country is already becoming globalist then you are deeply mistaken.

Monday, August 01, 2005 9:24:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

You trust a man that lied to the entire world as an excuse to KILL PEOPLE? There's no better explanation of why I so despise this administration.

Monday, August 01, 2005 9:37:00 PM  
Blogger Silas said...

We should send M.M to france and let them take care of him. Or even better, to China or Iran where the goverment could care less about the John Smith citizen.

Keep going at them!

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:27:00 AM  
Blogger joe said...

Bush didn't lie about Iraq. He went with what was in the intel. France, Germany, and Russia all had intel that said what our intel said about Iraq. Bill Clinton and John Kerry also have said that Iraq was a threat and had WMD's.

The bottom line now is...spreading freedom and Democracy in the Middle-East will smother the breeding grounds of terrorism. It will make it harder for terrorists to operate. The biggest problem now is...people want that to happen yesterday...like when they order at a fast-food joint. Things like that don't happen overnight. People forget that and look at the short term and not the long term.

BC08-I do agree that Mr. Moore has some very idiotic ideas. I don't want you to think I was trying to defend him. Good plan with the title! It doesn't take much to tick off a liberal. You only forgot to throw in that Mr. Moore is a fat idiot.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't know anything about the world and you are sadly mistaken globalism is at presence. The ideology of patriotism give me multiple explanations what makes you a patriot...and if you say that I am right you are wrong then there is no point of your petty excuse of a view...

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your "I am right you are wrong" it's not going to work on me...

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

anonymouse: well you can say that but it doesnt make it true. Give me some proof and then I will listen to you.

Joe: lol that he is.

Allisoni balloni: what you have to do is dismiss all other information and think of this: was the war good for iraq, and the answer is that yes it was. I think that everyone can agree with me that there would have been a lot more people that would have died in iraq had we left the dictatorship government alone. In about 20 years, there would have been a lot more deaths, by torture, and not to mention the life of normal people in iraq, not having rights. They are a lot better off now.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

The war you speak of is not in the past, as hundreds continue to die. The approach the U.S. has taken to remove their leaders from power has done nothing more than create anger and madness that will eventually be used to fuel future terrorists. Athough Sadaam was a violent leader, the U.S. can take total responsiblity for picking at him, much like is happening with North Korea, until we made big enough fools of ourselves and left his country to the mercy of its terrorist organizations. We live in a day and age where we shouldn't have to resort to blowing up other human beings to prove a point.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:42:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

The anger and madness is from people who cant understand that this war was the right choice. that is the only reason that people are continually againts america, and the dems are only helping worsen our reputation.

I know that you want to believe that this war was a total failure, and that bush is an idiot, and that the dems are right, but it isnt true. We are making progress in iraq. There are sections in iraq that are already self policed. The date of when we leave iraq is approaching rapidly.

The repubs were right, and as time goes on, and it becomes more clear that this was the right choice, then many people will believe it.

The neocons were right on this, and now your going to be humble and accept this.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:57:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

dude, what does the last line right above your post say? (sense you cant read, Ill just show it to you)

"The neocons were right on this, and now your going to be humble and accept this."

Guess what? I spelled it right! damn this is really starting to piss me off. If you can read what I write then dont complain to me because im a fast typer and I dont correct my mistakes. Shut the hell up! I know that your mad that a conservative 15 year old is giving the libs that come on his blog a big smackdown, but your going to have to deal with it.

With that being said, I dont think ive ever heard anything in my church that has been even related to something political, let alone something political. And I am also proud to state that I havent even listened to any right wing talk radio in at least a couple weeks, and I have never listened to it regularly.

Oh and I think im smarter than the kids my age that are having cybersex and whatnot in chatrooms.

P.S. I would also like to inform you that I am reading 3 different books right now.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:16:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Jeez, I know people have warned me about the personal attacks but I never thought it would get this bad. sheesh!

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:18:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

Yeah, it's all about the cybersex. You must be jealous, because you're missing out! You are NOT smacking down anyone, I can assure you. I believe what I believe because I have gotten all sides of the story and formed strong opinion based on morals and common sense. You should no longer believe that you can change peoples minds, especially by preaching the policies of a moron.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:48:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Well im very happy for you.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:05:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

This is the kind of person allisoni is:

"killing is wrong, no matter what." (not a direct quote from her, but thats what her opinion on the iraq war expresses)

Well I can respect that. but the problem with this. There can be complications. Such as terrorism and the position that saddam hussien was in. Now Im not going to explain why again and again but I will say one thing; that as a pro life person that this was the option that would choose less DEATH, PAIN, AND SUFFERING. Once you understand that you will understand that the war on iraq was GOOD for iraq.

Saint, tash, and Joe agree with me on that and as regular commentators on this site, we have each others support on that issue.

I pray for you to understand this concept. You say that your opinion is based on morals. well let me tell you something, and that is that humans were created in the image of God, so they're God's morals. If you dont have a personal relationship with him, then you dont truly have right morals.

This is not to offend you, in any way, shape or form (although you offended me deeply with your last post) but to show you the light.

Are you a christian? if you are not then I pray for your immortal soul; dont throw it away.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:19:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

I have been brought up a Christian but have lately been very much in question. People that evangelize and live spreading hatred around the world, supposedly in the name of God, make me wish to be anything but one of them. Christianity has become more about hate and politics than it has about God and spirituality. Another thing that you must understand is that there are hundreds of religions in this world. More than one god, more than one belief, and although you believe what you believe, you have not been given the power or authority to "play God" and tell other people where they will go when they die. Being a Christian is about leading by example and supporting others even though they may be different, and many of the Republicans running the country also fail to see that. We do not live in under a theocracy because each individual has the RIGHT to worship (or not worship) however they wish to do so. In my eyes, to be a true Christian is to accept that others are different yet can still be good people, and there is little display that many calling themselves "Christians" understand that.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:35:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

BC08, I support you as a brother in Christ and as a human being who seems to have been somewhat emotionally neglected by his parents. I understand that and I get what it feels like.

Do not take this to mean that I support ANY of your political views, especially ones that I have not commented on, such as the debate on whether or not the war has been good for Iraq.

I have also made it abundantly clear that I in no way support the way that you are going about all of this. Your attitude is entirely self-righteous and smug, and it is because of that that you are not actually getting anything out of the many view points that are being represented here.

This should be an opportunity for you not only to put out what you are observing but also to experience the wisdom that others bring to the table. Instead you adopt the attitude that everything you say is right and everyone else needs to just deal with it. There is one person in existence who can claim that - God - but even God does not use that fact to grind people under his thumb. God uses that fact to provide people with freedom. Freedom to think, act and feel however they choose. He offers us guidance in the true way, but he leaves the choice up to us. It is called grace, and it is something you are lacking.

Look at what you are accomplishing here for the kingdom! Look at all of these people, non-believers many of them, who are watching you to see what a "Christian" does and says. You are in the position of being a model for others and you are using that to do exactly the opposite of what Christ died for. He came to include, to accept and lay down his own life for others. That didn't just mean his mortality, that also meant that he laid down his thoughts, his dreams and his convictions in order to love people into following him. By contrast, you are doing none of that. You are going out of your way to alienate everyone who doesn't think or feel like you. You are casting aspersions at people that God loves - people that need to know that God wants them to belong to something bigger than themselves, bigger than me and bigger than you.

If you will not accept that you have a responsiblity to model Christ to the people who come here, you have no business doing what you are doing.

Do NOT put words in my mouth again.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

One last thing for you to think about, BC08:

Stop praying for people to come over to your way of thinking. That is a soulish prayer that comes directly from your own ego, and nowhere else.

Pray for people (including yourself) to have a deeper understanding of what GOD is saying. The moment that you start making your prayers for other people all about you, you have become an agent of the enemy.

Satanism is the worship of self as god. Pray to yourself, glorify yourself. When you say that you are praying for people to realize that you are right, you're only a short drive away from that.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess what? I spelled it right! damn this is really starting to piss me off. If you can read what I write then dont complain to me because im a fast typer and I dont correct my mistakes. Shut the hell up! I know that your mad that a conservative 15 year old is giving the libs that come on his blog a big smackdown, but your going to have to deal with it.

With that being said, I dont think ive ever heard anything in my church that has been even related to something political, let alone something political. And I am also proud to state that I havent even listened to any right wing talk radio in at least a couple weeks, and I have never listened to it regularly.

Oh and I think im smarter than the kids my age that are having cybersex and whatnot in chatrooms.

P.S. I would also like to inform you that I am reading 3 different books right now.


Yeah you are a christian all right. You really stooped yourself as the lowest common denominator and sneering your self righteous propoganda. BTW intelligence does not come with I'm right you are wrong. That's something you need to understand a relationship with yourself, the creator and your parents. Let me guess you are reading O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and Coulter? (or anything else in that vicinity)

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:59:00 AM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

Adolf Hitler was operating on a much bigger scale than Sadaam Hussein. World War II was very much full-fledged before the U.S. became involved, going to war with Japan first, and then Germany. Hitler had invaded several other countries, imprisoning more citizens than just those of his own country. The entire world was falling apart before the U.S. went to war, and now because of the U.S., the rest of the world is going to war. The two situations are extremely different, and therefore aren't easily comparable. How many other causes are there in the world? Starvation, AIDS, millions of people struggle and die every day for many different reasons, and we are now using the killing of Iraqi citizens as an EXCUSE to justify occupying there. If we are going to liberate and help one country, why not all the rest? Not that some of the Iraqis may better off, but we have used other peoples suffering to make our cause look more honorable when it is really very opposite of why we were there in the first place. We are liars and foreign invaders, and there is NO excuse for that.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allisoni, in my opinion, the Iraqi war is necessary. Why? Because although we are killing some civilians, we are saving millions more in the long run. And I see that you are against this, so I was wondering if you thought it was wrong for the U.S. to attack Germany when Jews were being gassed and tortured to death in the camps. I'm not sure if you were aware of this or not, but the same thing was happening in Iraq before we invaded. So do you think we should have stayed out of Germany as well and let the Jews continued being slaughtered because "war is wrong"? Thanks for your time :)

Actually I have to disagree with you the big banks ran by Harriman, Prescott Bush, and Fritz Thiessen financed the plans of rising Hitler in power and create the second world war. This is the other half you should look into and yes we all know about the jews executed how about the gypsies, polish, and homosexuals who were executed in the process. IBM one of the major computer corporations helped the Nazis with the identification tags and numbers. In reality the major financiers created the wars and profiteered off of it in return. I would get into a detail of this but it would become into an essay.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:39:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

Which issue was more pressing, Cate? Helping the millions of people sick and dying each day in Africa, or invading a country that was of no threat to the U.S.?

And a question of BC08 Just wondering if you're homeschooled?

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:55:00 PM  
Blogger joe said...

Hey Saint...what are you so mad about? Under BC08's Iraq war post you said that Saddaam was a terrorist and that removing him from power was a good thing. BC08 was talking about the Iraq war-removing Saddaam from power-when he wrote that you agreed with him. He never said you agreed with him on anything else. It sounds to me like your attitude is self-righteous and smug and uppity.

I just can't really figure out where you are coming from. You sound like you'd like to be a mentor to BC08 and help him along in his Christian walk. That is good. Young men need examples of integrity and character to look up to. Young men need men to tell them that they are great and they can grow into a great man. We both know that Christ is the greatest example of this.

Annony-Boy! I gotta agree with Edgar! You got NO balls coming here as annonymous!

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:36:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Saint: you yourself said that the war was good with iraq, i specifically remeber you saying that. . . if you want me to I can go and find the direct quote from you. I was only stating that we agree on that.

Allisoni balloni: no, I am not homeschooled, I go to kamiak High school in mukilteo, washington. Now lets go to one of your prevoius posts.

More than one god, more than one belief, and although you believe what you believe, you have not been given the power or authority to "play God" and tell other people where they will go when they die."

Im sorry, but do you know anything about your religion? I would expect such a comment from an athiest. In short, yes, I do know where people are going when they die, as are any other christians. If you have accepted Jesus Christ's gift of eternal life, you have become a christain, and therefore are going to heaven. If you havent, then you are going to hell. The only other exceptions are religions that are close to the christian religion, such as catholicism and lutheranism. Im not sure what the rule is on that however. Im sure Saint can explain on that one.

"Which issue was more pressing, Cate? Helping the millions of people sick and dying each day in Africa, or invading a country that was of no threat to the U.S.?"

Actually, saddam was already a minor threat to the U.S. and had we done nothing he would have become a MAJOR threat to the U.S. And sending our military forces to Africa wouldnt be as useful as something else the U.S. could do, right? What Im trying to say is that lets focus our military on freeing countries like iraq from dictators like Saddam and terrorism.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:26:00 PM  
Blogger Allisoni Balloni said...

I do not, by any means, wish to insult your beliefs. But the fact of the matter is that you have no possible why of KNOWING where you will go when you die. After all, I'm pretty sure you are very much alive, and probably have not communicated with the dead. I do not know where I will go either, and therefore find it insulting when someone with the same beliefs as you tells me I will go to hell. I have been raised Catholic and believing in God, but I feel it's very natural to doubt, yet not lose faith. I am not declaring myself Catholic, Atheist, or any other religion, as I am still searching for where my heart fits and exploring other systems of belief. You can believe whatever you wish to believe, but then everyone else can too without being judged, because, you of all people should know who is the only one judging in the end.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:50:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Guess what? Its Called FAITH, and its what our entire religion is based on. Doubting is losing faith, and I think most people agree with me on that. You definitely are the kind of person who would steer away from the christian faith. Because you have the heart of a liberal.

Saint: have you checked out conservatives for american values yet? I want to know your opinion on it.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:03:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

Okay first of all I have never said that I think the war in Iraq was, is or has been a good thing. I may not have specifically said otherwise either because I am not completely decided on all my thoughts about it. To me it is much too complicated a matter to simply say it is good or bad. I was in agreement with the idea of ousting Sadam and at one time I very much believed that in itself was a good thing. But that was only an opinion. What I DO know is that everyday I look on CCN.com and find out that 10 more american soldiers have died for no apparent reason and that civilian deaths are even worse.

Edgar - I don't know what you're talking about and I think you must have me confused for somebody else because I can't recall saying anything in particular about killing recently. Please find me a quote so that I know what you're talking about. Incidentally I haven't smeared feces on my face since my early 20's when that funny doctor replaced the left side of my brain with a toaster oven.

Joe: You're right, young men do need all of what you said. They also need correction when they step out of line, as we all do.

BC08: Religion doesn't provide salvation and never has. God does not see things in terms of the "Christian" religion or the "catholic" religion. God sees people who are laying down themselves continually and following him. I don't think he is really all that concerned with what they call themselves. Humans create religions - artificial buildings, institutions that become more about petty politics than any true seeking after God. God creates relationships - the most important relationship is the one between a person and Jesus Christ. It is about GRACE - freely given. It has nothing to do with us and we are not to judge anyone else in terms of their heart condition or salvation either. You cannot look at a person and say "you are going to heaven" and "you are going to hell". That kind of judgement is SOLELY for God. You are allowed to judge the fruit (actions, lifestyles, thought patterns), but never the tree (the person themself, the spirit). Stop regurgitating all the religious drivel you've been buying into and GOD SEEK GOD FOR YOURSELF.

Lastly - Conservatives for American Values? Are you the only one here who hasn't realized that whole thing juat is a big sick joke? Its pure satire man - they're making fun of conservatives and doing an awfully good job of making cons look bad I might add.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger BobsAdvice said...

Jayson,

You make a lot of claims about Michael Moore said this and France said this. That is all very interesting. Since you are a precocious 15 year old, would you please learn a little HTML and provide the appropriate links to your sources.

You know, use the name of source protocol?

Otherwise, somebody like me might think that you made up all of those quotes anyhow. You wouldn't want that would you?

Bob

Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:08:00 AM  
Blogger Tedro said...

Wow, very impressive insight for a 15 year old. And I say keep on calling liberals idiots. That is what they are. They are obviously too stupid to understand fundamental government and too naive to want to learn.

Michael Moore is an idiot too. All these people out there put themselves up on a pedestal trying to sound all high and mighty. My bet is that they think the same thing about conservatives. They're just to scared to tell us. Not very open-minded you know.

Screw 'em!!! Keep up the good work and good luck with your blog. Well done.

Tedro

Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:27:00 AM  
Blogger joe said...

You're right Saint. We do need correction when we step out of line. That is why I can't figure out what you are so mad about.

Again-You commented under BC08's Iraq war post that Saddaam was a terrorist and his ousting was good. You and BC08 agree on that. Could it be that you don't want to admit that even though that is what you wrote?

Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:46:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

Zack brown: yes i have. Im just playing along. Oh and your response to tedro's comment was very entertaining. I love it when you get worked up about someone agreeing with me.

Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:06:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

Joe: Because Jayson is out of line - it is as simple as that. He is claiming to come from a Christian / Biblical perspective and yet is comporting himself in an entirely anti-Christian way. He is trying to divide instead of unite and breaking people down instead of building them up. That was not Christ's way and he is not being Christ's witness by doing that.

I may indeed have said that Sadam's ousting was a good idea, but that is not the same thing as saying that the War in Iraq was a good idea. I for one do not believe that the ends justify the means.

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger joe said...

Saint-Ok. All BC08 said was you agreed with him about ousting Sadam and you got pretty upset.

I agree with you that he should not name call. He should just let the liberals call him names. That would better illustrate his point about the liberals. They name call and attack those that do not agree with them first. If you are a liberal, and you do not fit that mold, good for you. I had a liberal come over to my site from this site and attack me. I don't care if people disagree with me. It irritates me when they attack and name call. How can you have a dialogue about anything if that is all that is happening? I simply wrote that to the angry liberal and thanked them for stopping by. The angry liberal has never been back.(the angry liberal also went to a friend of mine's site and attacked him for no reason)

I'm still in shock and awe about this Steve Hanchette(sp?) fellow. He kicked off BC08 because he supports George W. Bush! I've looked at his site. He attacks and name calls those that do not agree with him and in BC08's case kicks them off. BC08 has never kicked anybody off of his site. Even though they can be really vicious and mean. I've not seen you do that...kudos.

Friday, August 05, 2005 8:49:00 PM  
Blogger c nadeau & t johnson said...

Oh, I get it! You listen to that nut-bag Michael Savage, and then parrot him on yuor blogs. Gotcha!

Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

I havent geard micheal savage for weeks. I just put together some of the idiotic things hes said, and my opinion put on it.

Usually when people cant see any holes in the other persons argument they just say "oh your copying talk radio" or "you need to work on your spelling" Theyre just trying to change the subject. Theyre just pulling the straw man argument. Thats what your doing now, scribe.

Monday, August 15, 2005 5:59:00 PM  
Blogger c nadeau & t johnson said...

>>I havent geard micheal savage for weeks. I just put together some of the idiotic things hes said, and my opinion put on it. <<

SO you admit the person you parrot is an idiot. What does that make you, O Wise Old One of the Mountain?

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:35:00 PM  
Blogger c nadeau & t johnson said...

>> Theyre just pulling the straw man argument. Thats what your doing now, scribe. <<

How the hell would you know, little boy? In the vast scheme of things, you only recently learned how to wipe your own ass.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:36:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

"I just put together some of the idiotic things hes said, and my opinion put on it."

Im talking about micheal moore, and how i put the post together.

I have found over the period of time in owning this blog that when dealing with liberals I have to spell everything out for them. They have a very low level of comprehension. Why is this so? It'd be wonderful to get an answer to this.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:51:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

"How the hell would you know, little boy? In the vast scheme of things, you only recently learned how to wipe your own ass."

because I am smart, not stupid. But keep on saying that I am stupid, and you will only be embarrassing yourself. The people who read this blog on a regular basis are very impressed with what me, a 15 year old, can do.

But I fear its too late. I think you already embarrassed yourself with that comment.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:08:00 PM  
Blogger c nadeau & t johnson said...

The everyday person is impressed by flickering images on a TV screen! You should be embarrassed, not I!

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:48:00 PM  
Blogger Bushcheney08 said...

And people who actually go on blogger and talk politics are not everyday people. They are very intelligent. And by insulting them like that you are not winning them to your side. Your just looking more like the extremist liberal that you already are.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger c nadeau & t johnson said...

Stupid kid (your new nickname, provided by you, no less),

I am not interesting in winning people to my "side." First, I have no side to speak of. A truly intelligent person doesn't blindly devote oneself to a singular, mutually exclusive mode of thought. Second, I'm not interested in winning converts or souls. I'm here to write my thoughts and those who don't like them can either disagree or go fuck themselves-


praise jesus.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:35:00 PM  
Blogger saint said...

While I may not always (or usually) agree with everything Jayson says, you, scribe are just being offensive for offensiveness' sake, and that's kinda sad.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:14:00 PM  

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